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#InternPro Chat: “"Resume Black Holes: Beating the Applicant Tracking System" ”
Storified by YouTern · Tue, Feb 12 2013 22:30:45
QUESTION 1
Q1: What exactly is an Applicant Tracking Systems (ATS)? Who uses them? And what causes the “resume black hole”? #InternProYouTern
A1 – Recruiters use an ATS to track/manage candidates. Black Hole = hundreds of resumes across tens of roles #InternPro #recruitingJeff Moore
A1- The software that most likely kicks your resume to the curb. Big companies. Flat PDFs & any format the ATS cant scan #internproDillon Rhodes
ATS is a (wholly ineffective) method of filtering out job applications based on keywords used by large scale recruiters. #InternProMark Babbitt
A1: Applicant Tracking Systems do lots of things well. People screw it up!! Life would be much easier if not for lazy recruiters #InternProTom Bolt
Applicant Tracking Systems can be useful databases or excuses for why you weren’t hired. #InternProDr. Janice Presser
A1 Not all ATS are created equal. I’ve found it best to try to connect with someone in the system prior to applying. #internproSamuel Hershberger
I could not have hired 8K teachers every year in NYC without a good ATS. #internproTracy Brisson
QUESTION 2
Q2: I see career advice stating I must keep my resume to one or two pages. Does this rule apply to ATS as well? #InternProYouTern
A2: Resume length is usually a matter of recruiter preference, not ATS system preference. imho. 1-2 pages R fine. 3+ not so much #InternProShannon Smedstad
A2 A resume should be as long or as short as you need it to be. Whether it’s for ATS or a Human! #internproJohn Muscarello
A2 – A good recruiter reviews ALL the resumes that come into ATS for their role….system or not, it’s good practice #InternProJeff Moore
A2: Use every buzzword you can in your application that appear in the ad. It improves your chances of getting read by a person. #internproRob McGahen
@YouTernMark **Keep the resume to 1 column. Many ATS will merge columns (reads left to right) making it gibberish #internproDillon Rhodes
A2: Length of resume is not an issue. Ultimately it will be read by a human screener or recruiter. #InternProTom Bolt
QUESTION 3
Q3: At companies that use ATS, when does a human actually see my resume? Do they ever see my cover letter? #InternproYouTern
With some ATS, such as Taleo, the recruiter is sent a summary of their findings… and NOT the resume. #InternProMark Babbitt
A3: Great q. It depends on the level of the job and how involved a recruiter is. Keywords always sift through resumes first. #internproCareerleaf
A3 – A human sees your resume as soon as you apply in the last two places I’ve worked…ATS is for organization that’s it #InternProJeff Moore
A3pt 2 Cover letters annoy some recruiters and impress others. #InternProArron Daniels
A3: If it survives entire ATS/you get your resume to a human, still no guarantee it will be read #internproJess ‘Babs’ Bahr
A3: It’s important to thoughtfully, thoroughly input resume details into the ATS fields. Don’t enter "see resume" just in case. #InternproShannon Smedstad
A3: Within 24-36 hrs, however response times may vary. Cover letters are always secondary!#InternProSonalee Arvind
QUESTION 4
Q4: So ATS runs on keywords… How do I know what keywords the ATS is looking for? Is the job description my best bet? #InternProYouTern
A4: The job description is a great place to start. But don’t add skills/key words that you don’t truly have. #internproCareerleaf
A4 – This is where an applicant Researches the job description and the Company…then the industry…learn the words. #InternProDeb Babbitt
A4- Skip ATS and contact someone who works there =P #internproDillon Rhodes
A4 Job description, but also check LinkedIn for keywords. Look at the options you can choose in the Skills section. #internproStephanie Kornblum
Incorporating keywords from job description definitely helps! But remember to throw in other industry terms to cover all bases #InternProAvis Budget Careers
ATS rewards mediocrity. Use unusual words to describe your unusual accomplishments at your own risk! #InternProDr. Janice Presser
A4 Good idea to run SEVERAL job descriptions from different companies on Wordle and create a resume that is most appealing #InternproChaim Shapiro
QUESTION 5
Q5: I’ve spent a lot of time being very creative with my resume. Will that help or hurt me where ATS is used? #InternProYouTern
A5: Creativity is good if it can differentiate you from other candidates. Cookie cutter resumes don’t do you any good. #InternProTom Bolt
At #InternPro we talk a LOT about fitting in the company culture. Right or wrong, ATS is part of that culture! Gotta’ be seen.Mark Babbitt
A5: Ah, this is tricky! We never want to discourage creativity. But just know that some ATS software is just not creatively-savvy #internproCareerleaf
A5: I have learned this over and over again. Creativity is great, but easy to read and receive quality info is best. #InternProArron Daniels
A5: From what I’ve read, excessive creativity may not benefit the job seeker. Certain formats may not work well with ATS. #InternProNick LaRosa
A5 Have two resumes (or three) – I have one for when I’m applying through someone I know (direct email) and one for an ATS. #internproStephanie Kornblum
Creativity is fantastic for graphic design and art fields. Think of other ways to be "creative" in more conservative fields. #InternProHeather Rothbauer
Have a 1-column "flat" resume for companies that most likely use ATS. Have another resume format for humans. #InternProMark Babbitt
A5; Easy to read, relevant info, well written with a value proposition wins everytime. #InternproMarcia Robinson
Be creative with your networking…not with your resume. ATS doesn’t give a sh*t about creativity. #internproSamuel Hershberger
QUESTION 6
Q6: To avoid the black hole, how do I personally set the stage for my resume submission? How do I best follow-up? #InternProYouTern
Networking gets you hired. Sending your resume online just allows you to check a box that says "application submitted". #InternProMark Babbitt
A6 – Find a way to become an employee referral. ER’s rarely go into the black hole and are always reviewed #InternProJeff Moore
#internpro becoming an employee means you’re using every possible avenue of entry – at the same timeSteve Levy
A6: I like the idea of asking to set up an informational call 1st. Reach out to corp. rep, gather info. Learn, engage, foll/up. #InternproShannon Smedstad
I love the idea of bringing your formatted and nice looking résumé to the interview. ATS makes everyone’s info look the same. #InternProHeather Rothbauer
@JacketJobLink: @YouTern submit flat ATS resume through system. email HR follow up thank you note w/ "pretty" resume attached #InternProBHSU Student Success
Connect, connect, connect. Or get someone to intervene for you. #InternProDr. Janice Presser
We can’t mention #LI enough. Get on it…yesterday. #internproSamuel Hershberger
QUESTION 7
Q7: Do referrals from current employees also go through the ATS? Or do those get treated differently by HR? #InternProYouTern
A7 Great Question! In companies with ATS most are directly feeding new hire systems, so ans is usually "yes" #InternProTom Bolt
A7- Not at my company. Employee referrals generally get seen 1st. (2200 employees at our home office) #internproDillon Rhodes
Many companies now treating referrals as the gold they are… bypassing ATS (AOL is one of them). #InternProMark Babbitt
Make sure the employee referring you is a well-respected employee. Very important. #InternProHeather Rothbauer
Reality Check: Employee referrals not always used. Hiring manager considers the source. #internproDonna Svei
A7: Depends on the company. There is a higher chance of avoiding the ATS altogether though. #internproRob McGahen
QUESTION 8
Q8: Now that I understand ATS better, I will A) Tailor each resume sent B) Network even harder C) Hate ATS even more #InternProYouTern
A8 Network. Why would i bother with ATS when I can network my way to the HR person and save a ton of time. #internproJohn Muscarello
ATS: Garbage in. Garbage out. #internproDonna Svei
A8: All of the above. #InternProArron Daniels
A8. I mean, I’d probably say all 3. You don’t need to like something to accept it, right? That’s how a lot of things are for me. #internproBrittany Berger
A8: None of the above. If ATS is not serving management it should be killed outright rather than circumvented. #InternProTom Bolt
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